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Дмитрий_37 RUS писал:

well, I see) there are zero reasoned answers) the players are bots, the teams are not the same)) Chalban closed relatively recently) 

A lot of players have based their entire knife abillities on the fact that they can use 200 fps, alt strafe and perfect bunny hop / double duck with the use of aliases. Because of this, it was expected that a lot of them would be against removing any of these tools, even though they are illegal elsewhere, because they would have to re-learn basic cs 1.6 stuff such as movement and jumping. 
Removing them means that these people would have to spend months / years in kz servers to learn to be able to do what they did so easily with scripts, so it's totally understandable why they don't want it to happen. 

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Dmitry_37 RUS wrote:

Here from all this wonderful dialogue M4a1 is absolutely right about aliases and other crap in kfg.. and indeed, this is an advantage, to put it mildly. As a former administrator of the knife server Chalban I can write this, since the players there did not have this, that is, it is possible to somehow prohibit it, it turns out) and nothing, the server existed perfectly well for about 10 years without this) Sanya's profile will confirm) and then you go to the bridge and these tricks in the air begin, to which you barely have time to react, that is, it is not worth talking about a comfortable game here, and they fly as if all over the map, as if with a hook, I do not know)) well, that is, with the help of aliases, dedranes and all this incomprehensible nonsense)12.png

2 00 fps and the standard command +strafe to help. If people don't know about the existence of standard commands, it's the problem of the people themselves

Just because something is in the game, doesn't mean its morally fair to use. Especially when we talk about such flawed game like cs 1.6. Alias/scripts/knifebots are also in the game. Does it make it okay to use all of it? 
I see many people who defend alting/scripting, but noone of these people would like to face players who uses all of this in game. Hipocracy is next level here. 
I don't see anyone using alt jumps to peek someone in public servers holding with an awp or something like this? That would be considered unfair abuse and bannable. So it should be in knifing, alting is unfair gain of advantage no matter how you gonna look at it. And I do Understand it takes skill to learn ALT strafing, but it doesn't change the fact that its a broken mechanic of a flawed game.

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Quick= who abuses parachute mechanics and 3d camera to gain unfair advantage in platform and killing from the back. 

Это так не лепо звучит и равносильно тому что зайдя на HNS server ты тоже будешь жаловаться на чувака, который скачет по трём лестницам, из-за того что ты догнать его не можешь?

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bro u just altojeb

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Quick= who abuses parachute mechanics and 3d camera to gain unfair advantage in platform and killing from the back. 

It sounds so ridiculous and is the same as if you were to go to the HNS server and complain about a guy who is jumping up and down three flights of stairs because you can’t catch up with him?
Don't discuss 'knife' with me. Default 35hp_2 map don't have parachute/ 3d camera. You are just a bot that running away everytime and jumping with parachute/camera on platform. + you are 5 ping wasted on no talent.

 

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River Flows In You писал:
Dmitry_37 RUS wrote:

Here from all this wonderful dialogue M4a1 is absolutely right about aliases and other crap in kfg.. and indeed, this is an advantage, to put it mildly. As a former administrator of the knife server Chalban I can write this, since the players there did not have this, that is, it is possible to somehow prohibit it, it turns out) and nothing, the server existed perfectly well for about 10 years without this) Sanya's profile will confirm) and then you go to the bridge and these tricks in the air begin, to which you barely have time to react, that is, it is not worth talking about a comfortable game here, and they fly as if all over the map, as if with a hook, I do not know)) well, that is, with the help of aliases, dedranes and all this incomprehensible nonsense)12.png

2 00 fps and the standard command +strafe to help. If people don't know about the existence of standard commands, it's the problem of the people themselves

Just because something is in the game, doesn't mean its morally fair to use. Especially when we talk about such flawed game like cs 1.6. Alias/scripts/knifebots are also in the game. Does it make it okay to use all of it? 
I see many people who defend alting/scripting, but noone of these people would like to face players who uses all of this in game. Hipocracy is next level here. 
I don't see anyone using alt jumps to peek someone in public servers holding with an awp or something like this? That would be considered unfair abuse and bannable. So it should be in knifing, alting is unfair gain of advantage no matter how you gonna look at it. And I do Understand it takes skill to learn ALT strafing, but it doesn't change the fact that its a broken mechanic of a flawed game.

Не вижу смысла спорить о том, какие хорошие или плохие/"читерские" механики есть в игре, которой 25 лет.

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River flows in you, then why you giving your point of view if you don't care about it, and you don't even play in the server.
Your opinion is meaningless in this discussion then.

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Хз, я сам раньше на альтеров смотрел как на читеров, пока сам не стал альтить, ниче сложного, Ривер тут правильно подметил про 200 ФПС + бинд на strafe

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"I started cheating, so I don't see a problem in it anymore" Nice logic SSL.

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"I started cheating, so I don't see a problem in it anymore" Nice logic SSL.

Если это читы то да, значит я читер :3

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